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no matter what the design is, I ask from the beginning of communication so that the client is aware of who is an expert and who has a need. if you're betting njanjav, like many Indonesians it is difficult to persuade a client and when the design is extra. I'm not talking client "dear", I do not say "I think" but "I know" ... I dictate the pace and customers love. transactions can cat in a sack that they sell.
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